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Even if innocent, did he not foresee the controversy he would create potentially ruining an innocent family simcha?Are these the actions of a wise selfless leader?
Why did the Baal Simchah stir things up?He is really to blame.
there is something very unusual about the photo.Both brothers hold their hands in EXACTLY same position
The Tzadick doesn't look very well, he lost a lot of weight and looks very pale and his beard has grown longer and wither.Wonder what is the reason !!
thanks for giving me family photos of our simcha so quick
Maybe cos he is deprived of all the stimulus he was used to getting! He must be missing it!
The tzadik has lost weight as whilst in the collindale police cells he did not get fed to well.Apparently the food was not kosher enough.On a more serious note CH still has enough of a tummmy to rest his hands on.
the person who took this pic is on video right now caught this will be taken up further thank u
Did you actually read what you wrote before posting it??? & what exactly are you planning on doing to "this person whom you have caught on video"??? get a life!
I am glad to hear Rabbi Chaim Halpern is losing weight, without the stress of throngs coming to him for support and help he can eat salad and salmon for supper instead of hastily grabbing some biscuits and coffee. Good for him! And by the way you wouldn't believe the kinds of people who are mesader kidushin in the USA and the world hasn't come to an end from it....
I hear he was there after curfew, and in the same room with his brother, which is also not allowed. Perhaps someone should alert the police....
well done Mr Meyers. I pray to G-D your wife or daughters NEVER suffer what women have ALLEGEDLY suffered by those hands that shook your hand today. And before any of you jump up and say hes innocent, maybe legally but Halachicly G-D help this man.
They used CH as an Eid yesterday ..... a Choshud al Aroyos is Possul Le'eidus Isho ........ Thankfully he was only an Eid Yichud NOT Kiddushin !!So Yossi Heller what do you have to say on this one !!
BELIEVE IT OR NOT ON THIS VIDEO ARE 2 VICTIMS OF A SCANDAL WHICH MAKES ALLEGATIONS OF REB CHAIM LOOK VERY PETTY INDEED. I PROMISE YOU.THIS IS BIGGEST SCANDAL OF ANGLO JEWRY IN ENGLAND IN THE 21ST CENTURY. BUT OBVIOUSLY ITS ALL HUSH HUSH.
What video are you talking about?
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ProtectChildren, you are an imbecile of the highest degree, the children you are pointing out have been looked after cared for and loved by people that this has put an extremely difficult burden both emotionally and financially without any outside help at all. You should really apologize to the amazing people in the community who took these children on selflessly. Typing in upper case does nothing to the rubbish you are spewing.
talk about imbecile, do you know the facts of the case? dont comment if you dont know what you are talking about. and at least have he decency to say your name, before calling somebody an imbecile.I reckon you are 1 of 4 people
ProtectTchildren .... could you please elaborate !!
Velvel, unfortunately these people were stolen from their home by dubious characters. obviously it seems from mr. anonymous imbecile that the care being afforded to these children must be presenting a problem otherwise he wouldnt have answered the way he did.
Velvel, you assume that by supporting the right of an individual Bal Simcha to choose a controversial personality as MK, I approve of the choice or the personality. I have always stated that I will not consciously publicize my opinions on any individual whilst I am not privy to first-hand information & UK libel laws remain in their current form. (I'm in the book, let's meet 1 on 1 and I will bore you to death). Whilst I may disapprove of his choice of MK, (to misquote EB Hall) I will defend to the death his right to make it.The self-proclaimed protectors of Anglo Judaism, UOHC, allow the MK to remain acting as the Rov of a constituent/affiliated shul and its ABD has authorised his officiating as MK. No Rov or group of Rabbonim, let alone a formal Beis Din, of any creed, has made an attempt to place him in niduy or cooperate with the police. Why should an individual baal habos - who incidentally sides with this rov - not choose him to be MK?Any Rov truly believing it wrong, has a moral & civic duty to publicly & CLEARLY air those views & endlessly explore every avenue to ensure a culprit is removed from all office and brought to either justice or suitable medical care as appropriate.
Glad to see the fresser is finally losing weight!! Apparently he was starving for his grub while in his cell!!!!!
Velvel Towelgate - are you the famous velvel from the ifyoutickleus blog? whats gonna be with RCH??
I suppose CH was there because he couldn't be at the Belz bash - no passport!!!
OMG protectyourchildren. These kids have been looked after so well in the last 18 months. The scandal is that those close to them could cause such problems whilst their own kehillo stood by idly. No one stole them. Keep your sick misinformed comments to yourself and have respect for these incredible families who have stepped in without any ulterior motive.
Some have some have been totally forsaken. what do you mean no one stole them. The same kehilla that you admitted "stood by idly" shipped them off with the most terrible messira. It says a lot for a kehilla who could not care 2 hoots about yessomim. people were originally blackmailed into having them or they would go to goyuim. The unfortunate thing is some of the carers act worse than goyim, so you are probably seeing the good carers (or are yourself inflicting the most terrible pain to these yessomim. Dont worry Hashem ALWAYS keeps his promise.I hope anonymous that one day we will hear your misinformed comments on the same vein. idiot.Not so long ago I saw a child crying that he couldnt attend a close family simcha. Grow up.
I am not one of the carers but i know them all well. They are all shomrei torah umitzvos and are baalei chessed to a higher level than most of us can aspire to. None ever chas vesholom act worse than goyim. Dont resort to personal insults and then tell me to grow up. How dare you. Have nothing but huge hakoras hatov to the carers and use your energies to daven for the whole family
You seem very sick man, who unfortunately has no shaychus with the torah. Look at the chinuch on lo signov. Unfortunately JG and his wife have been affected by non jewish philosophy and their punishment is sure to come (if it hasnt come already). I'm sure you are lying that you know all the carers because only the parents and the family and the carers know all the carers. We are talking about the culture of yovon not a torah culture. Quite a lot of gedolim have said that. But seeing where I found you you probably dont know what a godol is. You probably think the GD rabonim are the gedolei yisroel.
Oy nebech. Not only do i know who they are, i know who you are. I truly feel for you but will not hear a single word about JG, who is doing an unbelievable job looking after S, or any of the others - see i do know them. You found me in the same place that you were looking, remember, you are just the same as me, but not JG, hopefully he doesnt read this, he is too kodosh for that, as is his rebitzen. Ps This is my last post on this subject.
...and yes i know that there is more than one S. but only one with last letter n. goodbye and goodluck
I can guarantee you do not know who i am, but i have got a pretty good idea who you are. If you are who i think, unfortunately some of your children havent turned out the way you wanted to, and this what gives you your goyishe views. Your children will always have sthing missing if you have not got hashkofas hatorah. And I am sure that is what you are doing on this site. I came on for an entirely different reason, but don't worry about it you imbecile. The proof is that you ARE going to reply whether you like it or not.
ProtectChildren.. Grow up and get a life. (BTW I am a different anonymous from the one you have been slagging off the last 2 days) I am the original one who call you an imbecile.Let me challenge you. Call me on my mobile within the next 10 minutes seeing as you think I am one of 4 people and we can have a chat. I can guess who you are and I will gladly post your name once I confirm your IP address with the blog owner. Whatever the Gateshead community did or didn't do for this family is irrelevant, what is relevant is the families who took these kids on, did so without any care for their own children. They did this totally leshmoah. I know of one family whos daughter gave her parents an ultimatum, either the foster child goes or me. The parents took daas torah and kept the foster child knowing there was a major risk they could loose their own daughter. Another family suffered for months with tantrums and worse due to the fact that these kids had lost a mother who died and unfortunately lost a father at the same time who went crazy. stop with your nonsense - if your in the know why didnt you take all these kids on yourself? ill tell you why, because its much easier to hide behind a keyboard and spew hate and rubbish instead of actually doing something positive. Sometimes tough love is what these kids need. If they were not allowed to go to a family simcha, there was a reason for this - maybe because every time they went to family for a period of time the transition back to the foster family was just too difficult for the child. Think about the foster families. If your so in the know, you would know that one of these families missed their first grandchilds birth due to the fact that they were not allowed to leave the country. So stop with all this nonsense do something positive and you should send a bunch of flowers to each foster family for shabbos to say sorry.
I think you are the same anonymous all along, except the one that baited you back here knowing you couldnt control yourself with your last post. Chazal say revenge is sweeter than honey hardly possible for human beings. Since I always follow chazal, I was sure you would take the bait, and like a fish......Its the same Chazal that says you cannot steal children. So I would suggest you learn a little bit of Torah and then apologise to me.
I have read this and I am quite shocked by (the latest anonomous) reply: 1) whatever the Gateshead community did or didnt do for this family is irrelevant. May I ask your honorable self, irrelevant for who? For you, for the children, for the family and most importantly for Hashem?2)lost a father at the same time who went crazy; when, and what. I suppose that typifies what this blog is about. just berate people. 3) It doesn't seem PROTECTCHILDREN came on this blog to berate carers just when YOU brought it up he said SOME were acting terribly.4) He never said the carers didn't mean for the good, but he said some were acting worse than goyim. It certainly defies belief that people would take on the job meaning bad. It is just a job which demands the highest level of Torah understanding to do it properly as opposed to the psychology of social workers which we all know is awry.5) YOU HAVE SAID THINGS IN YOUR LAST POST WHICH (even were they true) COULD HAVE VERY SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR YOURSELF, BUT IN YOUR ANGER YOU WROTE WHATEVER CAME OUT.it is very unfortunate that we have to contend with people who have no control on what they write.
Grow up the pair of you
do you know what has happened in your smug little world chemi, are you aware that there has been the most terrible scandal.
You obviously dont know the story chemi. Its a lot darker than this story
PROTECTYOURCHILDREN, I take exception to you criticising me because of my children. Whatever my children are gives you no right to attack me or the carers. If there is anything wrong with the way I brought up my children, please never criticise the carers of these children. This will now be my last post.
i told you you cant control yourself anonymous. just worry about yourself and your kids, and dont be a do gooder
protectTchildren... could you give us an explanation what is going on ... cos we in Stamford Hill Haven't got a clue what you are talking about.Come on please spill the beans !!
If you make as much fuss about a true scandal, as you make about moitzei shem ruh i will tell you velvel
Seriously, Chemi is right, the lot of you need to grow up. Im not a gateshead resident, and I am also not privy to all of these details being discussed on here. I am however SHOCKD! that people are discussing this family on here! I had no idea who they were until someone started giving details and like many people who have read these comments I know enough about that place to have cottoned on as to whom you are referring! I have only this to say SHAME ON YOU!!! STOP THIS!!! how dare you discuss this on here!!! if you have issues meet up and fight it out in private! why do we need to get involved??? what good is it going to do??????????
oh but to berate a rov who has helped 100's of people, a choshuver ben torah is quite alright on here. But a proper scandal which is obvious from all sides is treif. But you are right anonymous is totally out of order in her last reply.
Some people just never grow up.u guys are spending far to much in the koilel, go out and support your family.
I told you you live in a smug world, tv videos. Anyway I'm sure your family always want more. Btw i try not to take money from any Torah learning, and Boruch Hashem my family dont go short, and dont demand things off me. and i do support my family. And i dont berate rabonim.